Comments on: Lady Gaga – Bad Romance http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=1625 Pop, to two decimal places Mon, 06 Sep 2010 11:03:44 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Alex http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=1625&cpage=1#comment-6418 Alex Fri, 04 Dec 2009 22:36:36 +0000 http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=1625#comment-6418 It's just come to my attention that Starsmith (aka Ellie Goulding's partner in crime thus far) did one of the official remixes for Bad Romance. It’s just come to my attention that Starsmith (aka Ellie Goulding’s partner in crime thus far) did one of the official remixes for Bad Romance.

]]> By: Chuck Eddy http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=1625&cpage=1#comment-5600 Chuck Eddy Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:15:25 +0000 http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=1625#comment-5600 (Actually, come to think of it, Naughty By Nature referenced Boney M via sampling their version of "No Woman No Cry" in 1992's "Everything's Gonna Be Alright" aka "Ghetto Bastard." But my main point was "twice.") (Actually, come to think of it, Naughty By Nature referenced Boney M via sampling their version of “No Woman No Cry” in 1992’s “Everything’s Gonna Be Alright” aka “Ghetto Bastard.” But my main point was “twice.”)

]]> By: Chuck Eddy http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=1625&cpage=1#comment-5599 Chuck Eddy Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:12:42 +0000 http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=1625#comment-5599 More Metal Mike (though, as I've mentioned here elsewhere, somebody on the stupid ILX thread he's referring to did actually mention "Belgian new-beat" as the source of Gaga's synth sound, rightly or wrongly): [i]the one curious thing about the old/original gaga-discussion in the singles jukebox (or maybe it was ILX) was that no one could pinpoint the "synth sounds" antecedent etc. but on those "Italian Pop" cheesy recent hits you can DEFINITELY hear a clear move away from the oppressive "trance" synth sound, to a jollier happier poppier kinda tone. the gaga/RedOne synth riff that is also (would be) a killer "guitar riff" is LoveGame, i mean it's straight out of Beginner Guitar 101 banging on one string (the lower E string) with a cool riff that uses maybe 1/2 of the notes in "In A Gadda Da Vida"'s guitar/organ riff. [/i] Btw (this is Chuck again), can I mention again how much this song STOMPS ALL OVER THE PLACE?? Well, it does. Also very cool how Gaga turns out to be the only artist in the history of the American pop charts* to blatantly reference Boney M twice in one year ("Ma Baker" in "Pokerface," "Rasputin" here.) Or maybe even once. * -- unless Milli Vanilli did, but I don't think so. More Metal Mike (though, as I’ve mentioned here elsewhere, somebody on the stupid ILX thread he’s referring to did actually mention “Belgian new-beat” as the source of Gaga’s synth sound, rightly or wrongly):

[i]the one curious thing about the old/original gaga-discussion in the singles jukebox (or maybe it was ILX) was that no one could pinpoint the “synth sounds” antecedent etc. but on those “Italian Pop” cheesy recent hits you can DEFINITELY hear a clear move away from the oppressive “trance” synth sound, to a jollier happier poppier kinda tone.

the gaga/RedOne synth riff that is also (would be) a killer “guitar riff” is LoveGame, i mean it’s straight out of Beginner Guitar 101 banging on one string (the lower E string) with a cool riff that uses maybe 1/2 of the notes in “In A Gadda Da Vida”’s guitar/organ riff. [/i]

Btw (this is Chuck again), can I mention again how much this song STOMPS ALL OVER THE PLACE?? Well, it does. Also very cool how Gaga turns out to be the only artist in the history of the American pop charts* to blatantly reference Boney M twice in one year (“Ma Baker” in “Pokerface,” “Rasputin” here.) Or maybe even once.

* — unless Milli Vanilli did, but I don’t think so.

]]> By: Chuck Eddy http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=1625&cpage=1#comment-5577 Chuck Eddy Wed, 18 Nov 2009 03:20:45 +0000 http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=1625#comment-5577 K3v!n S@unders email response: <i>I watched the video several times to better pick up on the "subliminal" bits, which add layers of creepiness on top of the fundamental creepitude... I'm shifting all my investments to rat futures, anticipating the upswing in a revived millinery trade devoted to rat hair accessorizers (see 4:26). The upscale may tend towards bats, but by the end of next month every Wal-Mart in the country is gonna have a gondola groaning under the weight of this newly-trendy merchandise, and I'm getting in on the ground floor! I sense GaGa has paid keen attention whilst sitting through a couple of Luis_Buñuel retrospectives and applied the "more is better" rule. A couple of hundred entries down in the YouTube comments I came across "surrealist", so I don't need to repeat it!</i> K3v!n S@unders email response:

I watched the video several times to better pick up on the “subliminal” bits, which add layers of creepiness on top of the fundamental creepitude… I’m shifting all my investments to rat futures, anticipating the upswing in a revived millinery trade devoted to rat hair accessorizers (see 4:26). The upscale may tend towards bats, but by the end of next month every Wal-Mart in the country is gonna have a gondola groaning under the weight of this newly-trendy merchandise, and I’m getting in on the ground floor!

I sense GaGa has paid keen attention whilst sitting through a couple of Luis_Buñuel retrospectives and applied the “more is better” rule. A couple of hundred entries down in the YouTube comments I came across “surrealist”, so I don’t need to repeat it!

]]> By: Chuck Eddy http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=1625&cpage=1#comment-5576 Chuck Eddy Wed, 18 Nov 2009 03:14:44 +0000 http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=1625#comment-5576 Metal Mike Saunders via email two days ago; if you're not interested, don't read it: <i>in the Bad Romance video (surfaced just five days ago, per legit/embedding-enabled) when the dance routine that gaga and the "monsters" break out at 2:50 - 3:00 in the second chorus is like whoa whoa GREAT FUCKING DISCO MOVES! JOHN TRAVOLTA would be PROUD! (and i say this as someone who never saw 70's "generic disco dancing" back then that i didn't think should have been immediately be exiled to a lamess Playboy Roller Disco party) what's brilliant -- as songwriting -- is the little 10 second "rap" that sets up/kicks into that 2nd chorus. the confluence of the song (FIVE minutes w/o one slack moment! holy shit! and unlike dumb Bob Dylan / Like A Rolling Stone, the DANCE BEAT never stops for 1 sec), the video (which is creepy/brilliant/brilliant/creepy -- russian sex-slave trading with a bad ending, always such a popular pop-hit-video topic!) and the TV slot --gaga doing Bad Romance on GOSSIP GIRL (lame show, don't watch it since i'm not 18 or younger, nor female ditto) -- really feels like a "beatles moment," ,a hole kicked right through the wall. Lady Gaga - Bad Romance Youtube 10,042,005 views Text Comments (50,220) well that's a mild tipoff of a pop-culture earthquake -- 10 million Youtube plays in 5 days...holy shit. 6 to 12 months ago, talking randomly about lord knows what (probably american idol last season? spring 2009?) i posted that all it would take was -- one BIG NAME ARTiST (not a one-hit singer) cutting a HUGE DISCO HIT , in the style properly (and not billy joel not-quite-there doo-wop redux, as example) would....huh. i know i didn't get to the endpoint of actually MAKE DISCO COOL FOR STRAIGHT WHITE PEOPLE!(35 years later at that, re 1974-75 early disco hitting Top 40 out of the gay clubs)but that brief 10-seconds of simple white-folks "dance moves/routine" on the 2nd chorus at 2:50 - 3:00 is genuinely like "yes! i could do that! i WANT TO LEARN THAT!"(grind hips 4 times, then wave your right arm 8 times in addition) also, me having gone on record (multiple times, most notably) lamenting the disappearance of gibberish nonsense-lyrics from the mainstream Top 40 landscape since, eh, the fucking Beatles basically (re novelty songs) gaga is of course my TOTAL HERO of lyric writing. rank was of course deadon correct to point out that gaga can't be a "real Freestyle lead singer," because struggling vocally (however slightly like Expose, or totally as part of severe vocal limitations -- aka Stacey Q and others) is part of the genre. nope, she's (on this cut) a genuine howler, a DISCO DIVA! and fuck can she/gaga sing. i mean she's awesome when she uses the power/range of her voice. the other mindblowing facet of the video/TV clip is that she obviously UN-ironically loves the idea of being a "disco diva" circa (grace jones, gloria gaynor, whothefuck ever) who can belt. basically here is the simple theory = if something was never cool in the first place (disco as appropriated by white people) (the lameness of polyester, plus the flood of bad disco-novelty hits of 1978 and 1979) yet was always cool (musically) then it still has a chance of being brought back to life, zombie style (ha, and in the video gaga is a "monster" turned into a human, turned into a sex-slave ruskie) (there's some "evolution" theme i totally don't get) AND BE COOL IN THAT CONTEXT FOR THE FIRST TIME. if you're the ultimate in cool in all respects the first time around, then you're totally fucked ever after -- rockabilly 1955-1958, punk rock 1977-1982, metal (pick your whatever period)... </i> J!mmy Dr@per email response: <i>Saw a gay bar in boystown chicago this weekend come to a complete standstill when the Bad Romance video showed on the big screens hanging around the place, everyone just watched and stared. hadn't seen that since my undergrad days when Madonna's What it feels like for a girl video got banned (edited?) and a club in Ann Arbor played the original edit and everyone spontaneously stopped dancing to watch since it was unavailable elsewhere. Mike yr right--the dancing is genius. the 3:19 move in the link below is seriously probably my fave dance move since way back in 1995 when nomi malone did her famous hand/face move in Showgirls . The thing i always notice is, in this video and also when i saw her in concert, she dances HARD. she dances way harder (tho not better) than almost every other pop person i can think of at the moment--reminds me of 2nd-album-era britney at moments but more so mid-era madonna (gaga;s hardness is very Blonde Amvition). maybe janet at times too ("IF"). if only kylie ever danced like this. the other thing i notice is she's moving fast with her music/"MY ART" as she says--check out youtubes even from like May (her doing Lovegame on dancing with the stars e.g.) and that seems worlds away , it's pretty awesome to watch someone just run with it. speaking of: The Fame monster EP is blowing me away (Alejandro = Ace of Base's Don't Turn Around; Dance in the dark's creepy Vogue breakdown/"rap"/lady homage bit; the pop battering ram that is Telephone where Beyonce BRINGS IT ("stop calling! stop calling!");etc etc etc PLUS the unreleased No Way and 2nd Time Around are better than some of those on the EP. ) also: find online the SNL rehearsals for her skit with madonna. the live bit that aired didn't work but the rehearsal is amazing and gaga has great comedic timing. Madonna: I've had a million hits, you've only had two hits. Gaga: I've had 5!! WIll watch Gossip girl for the 1st time tonite to see her.</i> Metal Mike Saunders via email two days ago; if you’re not interested, don’t read it:

in the Bad Romance video (surfaced just five days ago, per legit/embedding-enabled) when the dance routine that gaga and the “monsters” break out at 2:50 – 3:00 in the second chorus is like whoa whoa GREAT FUCKING DISCO MOVES! JOHN TRAVOLTA would be PROUD! (and i say this as someone who never saw 70’s “generic disco dancing” back then that i didn’t think should have been immediately be exiled to a lamess Playboy Roller Disco party)

what’s brilliant — as songwriting — is the little 10 second “rap” that sets up/kicks into that 2nd chorus.
the confluence of the song (FIVE minutes w/o one slack moment! holy shit! and unlike dumb Bob Dylan / Like A Rolling Stone, the DANCE BEAT never stops for 1 sec),
the video (which is creepy/brilliant/brilliant/creepy — russian sex-slave trading with a bad ending, always such a popular pop-hit-video topic!) and the TV slot –gaga doing Bad Romance on GOSSIP GIRL (lame show, don’t watch it since i’m not 18 or younger, nor female ditto) –
really feels like a “beatles moment,” ,a hole kicked right through the wall.

Lady Gaga – Bad Romance
Youtube 10,042,005 views Text Comments (50,220)
well that’s a mild tipoff of a pop-culture earthquake — 10 million Youtube plays in 5 days…holy shit.

6 to 12 months ago, talking randomly about lord knows what (probably american idol last season? spring 2009?)

i posted that all it would take was –

one BIG NAME ARTiST (not a one-hit singer)
cutting a HUGE DISCO HIT , in the style properly (and not billy joel not-quite-there doo-wop redux, as example)
would….huh. i know i didn’t get to the endpoint of
actually MAKE DISCO COOL FOR STRAIGHT WHITE PEOPLE!(35 years later at that, re 1974-75 early disco hitting Top 40 out of the gay clubs)but that brief 10-seconds of simple white-folks “dance moves/routine” on the 2nd chorus at 2:50 – 3:00 is genuinely like “yes! i could do that! i WANT TO LEARN THAT!”(grind hips 4 times, then wave your right arm 8 times in addition)
also, me having gone on record (multiple times, most notably) lamenting the disappearance of gibberish nonsense-lyrics from the mainstream Top 40 landscape since, eh, the fucking Beatles basically (re novelty songs)
gaga is of course my TOTAL HERO of lyric writing.

rank was of course deadon correct to point out that gaga can’t be a “real Freestyle lead singer,” because struggling vocally (however slightly like Expose, or totally as part of severe vocal limitations — aka Stacey Q and others) is part of the genre. nope, she’s (on this cut) a genuine howler, a DISCO DIVA! and fuck can she/gaga sing. i mean she’s awesome when she uses the power/range of her voice.

the other mindblowing facet of the video/TV clip is that she obviously UN-ironically loves the idea of being a “disco diva” circa (grace jones, gloria gaynor, whothefuck ever) who can belt. basically here is the simple theory = if something was never cool in the first place (disco as appropriated by white people) (the lameness of polyester, plus the flood of bad disco-novelty hits of 1978 and 1979) yet was always cool (musically) then it still has a chance of being brought back to life, zombie style (ha, and in the video gaga is a “monster” turned into a human, turned into a sex-slave ruskie) (there’s some “evolution” theme i totally don’t get) AND BE COOL IN THAT CONTEXT FOR THE FIRST TIME. if you’re the ultimate in cool in all respects the first time around, then you’re totally fucked ever after — rockabilly 1955-1958, punk rock 1977-1982, metal (pick your whatever period)…

J!mmy Dr@per email response:

Saw a gay bar in boystown chicago this weekend come to a complete standstill when the Bad Romance video showed on the big screens hanging around the place, everyone just watched and stared. hadn’t seen that since my undergrad days when Madonna’s What it feels like for a girl video got banned (edited?) and a club in Ann Arbor played the original edit and everyone spontaneously stopped dancing to watch since it was unavailable elsewhere.

Mike yr right–the dancing is genius. the 3:19 move in the link below is seriously probably my fave dance move since way back in 1995 when nomi malone did her famous hand/face move in Showgirls . The thing i always notice is, in this video and also when i saw her in concert, she dances HARD. she dances way harder (tho not better) than almost every other pop person i can think of at the moment–reminds me of 2nd-album-era britney at moments but more so mid-era madonna (gaga;s hardness is very Blonde Amvition). maybe janet at times too (“IF”). if only kylie ever danced like this.

the other thing i notice is she’s moving fast with her music/”MY ART” as she says–check out youtubes even from like May (her doing Lovegame on dancing with the stars e.g.) and that seems worlds away , it’s pretty awesome to watch someone just run with it. speaking of: The Fame monster EP is blowing me away (Alejandro = Ace of Base’s Don’t Turn Around; Dance in the dark’s creepy Vogue breakdown/”rap”/lady homage bit; the pop battering ram that is Telephone where Beyonce BRINGS IT (“stop calling! stop calling!”);etc etc etc PLUS the unreleased No Way and 2nd Time Around are better than some of those on the EP. )

also: find online the SNL rehearsals for her skit with madonna. the live bit that aired didn’t work but the rehearsal is amazing and gaga has great comedic timing. Madonna: I’ve had a million hits, you’ve only had two hits. Gaga: I’ve had 5!!

WIll watch Gossip girl for the 1st time tonite to see her.

]]> By: edwardo http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=1625&cpage=1#comment-5510 edwardo Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:01:29 +0000 http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=1625#comment-5510 This is kind of awesome-bad in the same way "My Humps" is, annoying but sort of genius. The verses suck a bit though, and they remind me too much of "Call My Name" by Charlotte Church. This is kind of awesome-bad in the same way “My Humps” is, annoying but sort of genius. The verses suck a bit though, and they remind me too much of “Call My Name” by Charlotte Church.

]]> By: lex http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=1625&cpage=1#comment-5508 lex Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:24:10 +0000 http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=1625#comment-5508 "I don't wanna be French" - Gaga as all-American! Kind of love this song now :/ “I don’t wanna be French” – Gaga as all-American!

Kind of love this song now :/

]]> By: MBI http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=1625&cpage=1#comment-5472 MBI Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:17:38 +0000 http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=1625#comment-5472 Man, Lady Gaga started out great with Just Dance but it's all been slowly downhill, bottoming out in her first outright bad song, "Bad Romance." Outside the insane gypsy chant, there is really just nothing to this one -- an utterly generic waste of time. Man, Lady Gaga started out great with Just Dance but it’s all been slowly downhill, bottoming out in her first outright bad song, “Bad Romance.” Outside the insane gypsy chant, there is really just nothing to this one — an utterly generic waste of time.

]]> By: Chuck Eddy http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=1625&cpage=1#comment-5414 Chuck Eddy Fri, 13 Nov 2009 01:44:19 +0000 http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=1625#comment-5414 Maybe a leather stud does. (If Rob Halford was around, we could ask him.) Maybe a leather stud does. (If Rob Halford was around, we could ask him.)

]]> By: Erika http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=1625&cpage=1#comment-5404 Erika Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:07:28 +0000 http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=1625#comment-5404 <i>(and “I want your leather-studded kiss in the sand” is downright carnal)</i> IDK, it just makes me wonder how something can be "leather-studded" -- like, does she mean studded leather? Or does this person just have little bits of leather stuck to him? How does it stay on? With tape? -- and also who wears leather to a beach, anyway? (and “I want your leather-studded kiss in the sand” is downright carnal)

IDK, it just makes me wonder how something can be “leather-studded” — like, does she mean studded leather? Or does this person just have little bits of leather stuck to him? How does it stay on? With tape? — and also who wears leather to a beach, anyway?

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